Curse

-Makai- · Aug 06, 2009, 10:55 PM // 22:55

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Originally Posted by Game Updates, Guild Wars Wiki

PvP and PvE Changes:

Dervish

* Armor of Sanctity: functionality changed to: "All adjacent foes suffer from Weakness for 5..15 seconds. For 10 seconds, you take 5..20 less damage from foes suffering from a condition."
* Aura Slicer: functionality changed to: "If this attack hits, you deal +10..25 damage. If you are enchanted or this attack hits an enchanted foe, that foe begins Bleeding for 5..15 seconds."
* Dwayna's Touch: increased recharge to 5 seconds.
* Meditation: increased recharge to 12 seconds. Functionality changed to: "You gain 20..125 Health. If you are not enchanted, you also gain 3..8 Energy."
* Natural Healing: functionality changed to: "You are healed for 40..100 Health and an additional 40..80 Health if you are not enchanted."
* Pious Restoration: increased recharge to 8 seconds; increased casting time to 1 second. Functionality changed to: "You gain 80..150 Health and lose 1 enchantment. If an enchantment was removed in this way, you also lose 1..3 hexes."
* Sand Shards: functionality changed to: "For 30 seconds, Sand Shards ends early if you use an attack skill. When Sand Shards ends, it creates a sand storm at your location that deals 10..20 damage each second for 10 seconds to nearby foes."
* Vow of Piety: increased Energy cost to 15; reduced casting time to 0; increased recharge to 45 seconds. Functionality changed to: "Stance. For 20 seconds, you have +24 armor and +1..4 Health regeneration. Vow of Piety renews whenever an enchantment on you ends."
* Winds of Disenchantment: moved to the Wind Prayers attribute. Functionality changed to: "Lose 1 enchantment. If an enchantment was removed in this way, all nearby foes lose 1 enchantment and take 20..80 cold damage."

PvE:

* Conviction: functionality changed to: "For 10..35 seconds, you have +24 armor. If you are enchanted, you also have a 50% chance to block."

Looks like we'll have some useful toys to play with. I'm surprised they focused more on survivability than damage, though, as it's something we definitely need.

Thoughts? Opinions? Sand Shards and Conviction look like a lot of fun.

Being · Aug 06, 2009, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Sand Shards got nerfed if you ask me (Bye-bye Raptor bombing with it

). Does poop damage now - 21dmg @ 16 lawl. Just doesn't look like something I'd use personally.

Armor of Sanctity and Conviction look much better now though.

Ariena Najea · Aug 06, 2009, 11:12 PM // 23:12

Generally I stay away from Earth Prayers, because it pulls me away from doing what I need to do to be killing stuff. Maybe I'll bring Conviction now though!

Pious Restoration looks sick. I'll be messing around with it in RA (and maybe HB a bit) this weekend. Natural Healing and Meditation likely won't see much use though.

Raminus · Aug 06, 2009, 11:49 PM // 23:49

vow of piety looks really cool for pve

citizensmith1001 · Aug 07, 2009, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm

Thoughts? Opinions? Sand Shards and Conviction look like a lot of fun.

Sand Shards has been wrecked, it was a key skill in the Raptor farm for Dervishes and now it no longer works ,GG A-Net.

Verene · Aug 07, 2009, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Nice to see some attention paid to Dervishes. Too bad the skills that got changed were ones I never use

Rampage · Aug 07, 2009, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by citizensmith1001

Sand Shards has been wrecked, it was a key skill in the Raptor farm for Dervishes and now it no longer works ,GG A-Net.

They ruined a farming build to make a skill that was useless outside of it decent in general PvE, boo hoo.

Anyways, the conviction/vow of piety/sand shard buffs are pretty interesting. Also, winds of disenchantment looks pretty good now. AoE enchantment removal ftw.

citizensmith1001 · Aug 07, 2009, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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Originally Posted by Rampage

They ruined a farming build to make a skill that was useless outside of it decent in general PvE, boo hoo.

Anyways, the conviction/vow of piety/sand shard buffs are pretty interesting. Also, winds of disenchantment looks pretty good now. AoE enchantment removal ftw.

21 damage per second at 16 Earth prayers, yeah very ''decent'' .______. , I'd rather be able to continue farming on my current character and not have to go through the nonsense of creating a new character and running it through the whole game in order to be able to farm thanks.

akio pwns · Aug 07, 2009, 01:28 AM // 01:28

i am god dam HAPPY for once from anet for making the dervish wanted again. Iv been slaving around trying to make a good derv farm build that wastnt eh 130, raptor farm nor UW smite farm. I can now use some of these skills to some advantage. Now i wont be shunned from pvp or pve.

smilingscar · Aug 07, 2009, 01:52 AM // 01:52

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Originally Posted by Verene

Nice to see some attention paid to Dervishes. Too bad the skills that got changed were ones I never use

Isn't that the idea?

Shayne Hawke · Aug 07, 2009, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Unseen Fury was a Dervish buff.

reaper cryz · Aug 07, 2009, 02:46 AM // 02:46

they also killed the orders derv...the only changes i like are armor of sanctity and conviction, but they are earth prayer so basically useless in pve, unless youre trying to tank...

ewren3 · Aug 07, 2009, 05:24 AM // 05:24

i think 130 builds are gonna start using armor of sanctity more often!

Hugh Manatee · Aug 07, 2009, 06:55 AM // 06:55

I bet earth shaker>Sand Shards will be a gimmick now...

SpiritThief · Aug 07, 2009, 08:26 AM // 08:26

Armor of Sanctity was already a dope skill with high earth prayers. But it needed something to speard (I normally used veil of thornes) Now its even better.

SkekSister · Aug 07, 2009, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Its a buff for sure, but I don't see that this is going to make a major difference to Dervish inclusion into PvP. We have greater survivability now, but still, compared to a warrior, we are more fragile, do less damage and are still going to be second choice. I don't think this buff is anything like the kind of thing that was required to make Dervs popular again. It's certainly not anything like the buff that Rits got last time around.

I'm betting that in a months time when the changes have settled in, nothing will have changed. Primary Dervs will still be sidelined and their skills and weapon still far better used by secondaries.

Sorry if this sounds like QQ but I'm just calling it as I see it.

Cuilan · Aug 07, 2009, 10:47 AM // 10:47

I'm enjoying Sand Shards in normal mode, but it's dealing 0-11 damage in hard mode. Lots of 0's.

English Warrior · Aug 07, 2009, 02:09 PM // 14:09

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Originally Posted by citizensmith1001

21 damage per second at 16 Earth prayers, yeah very ''decent'' .______. , I'd rather be able to continue farming on my current character and not have to go through the nonsense of creating a new character and running it through the whole game in order to be able to farm thanks.

Raptor farm aint full game tbh and what does raptor farm gain u? asura points nothing that worthwhile.
QQ they nerf farms all the time sand shards may be useful now.

draxynnic · Aug 07, 2009, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by SkekSister

Its a buff for sure, but I don't see that this is going to make a major difference to Dervish inclusion into PvP. We have greater survivability now, but still, compared to a warrior, we are more fragile, do less damage and are still going to be second choice. I don't think this buff is anything like the kind of thing that was required to make Dervs popular again. It's certainly not anything like the buff that Rits got last time around.

I'm betting that in a months time when the changes have settled in, nothing will have changed. Primary Dervs will still be sidelined and their skills and weapon still far better used by secondaries.

Sorry if this sounds like QQ but I'm just calling it as I see it.

I think I'd agree with that analysis. Lots of buffs, but it still doesn't give the profession a focus.

And... I liked the old Sand Shards. Hardly a universally applicable skill, but when it was useful it was really useful, and something I considered one of the defining skills of the Dervish.

H-lord · Aug 07, 2009, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Anet is coming in the right direction now, but still i would like they are alot of useless skill out there.
Also, they should look at some of the elite too, especially vow of strength, near overpower when use it on non-condition foe but it's near impossible to use cuz there will always be condition on foes, good skill in theory but bad in real use.
BTW in my opinion just make sand shard armor ignoring like it use to be cuz the new one just lame. 1-7 damage in HM is too lame.